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Публикувано: вт апр 15, 2008 9:14 pm
от sixkiller_k3
Corwin (admin for uni SPEED) wants you, ben and Majestica to explain him how are you playing and he has doubts in flooding and multy for you three ;) Better write him in private.

Публикувано: вт апр 15, 2008 10:10 pm
от Majestica
Fr0z3nSouL™ написа:QUOTE(Fr0z3nSouL™ @ Apr 16 2008, 08:14) Corwin (admin for uni SPEED) wants you, ben and Majestica to explain him how are you playing and he has doubts in flooding and multy for you three ;) Better write him in private.
WTH? How exactly can He think Im a Multi?
Does he have proof? Surely he has to?
I Had to get someone to explain to me what flooding is and I have Never Done Such a thing.
The Only thing I have Done wrong is Work with an Alliance Member.
Is this Cause Cat is In Competition for first place?
Does Corwin have a friend Cat is beating?
I've been playing for 2 1/2 rounds and met cat last round.
as far as i know cats been playing for 2.
Does He Even have any evidence we are multi other than we Help each other as any good alliance members should?

Публикувано: вт апр 15, 2008 10:16 pm
от MartinNosovich
Oh, yes. If someone has been punished for multiaccountig, the admin definately has the proof. The system is a way smarter than you can imagine.

Публикувано: вт апр 15, 2008 10:25 pm
от sixkiller_k3
As I said he (Corwin) has written that he wants you three to give an explanation.

Публикувано: вт апр 15, 2008 11:16 pm
от CORWIN
[attachment=348:Cat_ben_Majestic_1.htm]

As you see from the table, numerous times ships from both accounts - ben and majestic have been smashed to push cat with resources and war points.

Публикувано: ср апр 16, 2008 2:26 am
от Majestica
CORWIN написа:QUOTE(CORWIN @ Apr 16 2008, 10:16) [attachment=348:Cat_ben_Majestic_1.htm]

As you see from the table, numerous times ships from both accounts - ben and majestic have been smashed to push cat with resources and war points.
That does not make me a multi account of Cat.
That means I made a choice to make sure he got to the top, since it was logical as he was higher in WP.
Its not my fault that theres a flaw in the game where a statistcal anomily of WP + recyclables > Original fleet sent.
You will find everyone who is clued up is doing this.

This Does not Make me a multi account.
Just a person with some smart.
I Was Paying back the loan of his resources to me, which seems to be a game rule that it has to be done within a week.
So If I Would do this to see someone of my alliance rise is it not posible Ben would be doing this selfless act for the same reason.

And if i was a multi wouldn't i be playing in the same timezone as him?
I think you need to recheck your reasonings for punishement cause there wrong.

So who's ya friend Corwin?
There must be someone at the top who u want to see beat cat?
Isn't that an abuse of your power if you punish someone so someone else can get to the top on the last day of the round?

Публикувано: ср апр 16, 2008 2:48 am
от Majestica
CORWIN написа:QUOTE(CORWIN @ Apr 16 2008, 10:16) [attachment=348:Cat_ben_Majestic_1.htm]

You've been punished for violation of the game rules. Pushing, babysiting and multiaccounting.
This quote is from other thread.
As For the Violations U acuse me of I Have in no way done Babysitting, or multiaccounting.
as for your pushing claim it aint in the rules which you linked.
http://uni1.bulfleet.com/cond_en.txt
The Definitions of:
QUOTE(Rules)II. Restrictions and punishments
1. Multi-accounting
The multi-accounting means a registration of more than one account in the same Universe by one player. This is highly forbidden and is punished by deleting of all accounts made by the violator.
If more than one user enter the game using one and the same IP they must prove that they are different people. A special attention will be applied to confirm that the default options are not used when the IP of many accounts match. Cooperative attacks on a side player or attacking between accounts with the same ip will lead to a force (Vacation) mode until further notice.

2. Babysitting
Cooperative use from multiple users of one account is punishable, but with this notice: Every account, which is online for more than 20 hours on a particular day will be checked and if a babysitting by multiple users will be discovered, the account will be punished for 10 to 30 days (Vacation mode)), on a second violation the account will be deleted without warning. If there is a doubt of babysitting the account will be forced to Vacation mode until clarification of circumstances. Every login and every IP are being tracked and the date written into a log file. According to this rules babysitting is forbidden and is punished by this way:
On first doubt the account of the creator and the babysitter are punished by two days. During this time they must contact the administrator and to present an explanation. If this doesn't happen the accounts are being deleted. If they give an explanation, which discharges them the punish is removed and their game resumes.
On second doubt the accounts of the creator and the babysitter are punished by ten days and reducing their fleet by half without falling in resource points. The violators again must contact the administrator during the punishment mode and to give an explanation.
On third doubt the accounts of the creator and the babysitter are being deleted without a notice.[/quote]
Your Main Proof for multi accounting for is IP Addresses matching? Well Do they?
I Doubt it since im from New Zealand And Cats From UK.
Baby sitting: Show me once where i have logged into Cats Account? or vice versa.

So the only thing that leaves if you cant bring proof of either of those is You Claimed Pushing which aint even in the rules you posted.
See for yourself.
Need More Proof Im Not A Multi Account, then ask for it.
Pictures? License? University ID? a picture of myself holding the local newspaper with todays date, infront of my computer with my forms of id and logged into bulfleet showing on my monitor?
Will this be enough to convince you im not a multi account?
What would you like as proof instead?

Well I Fear it will all be too late, cause whoever your friend is you are doing this for has prolly already taken lead, and the round is almost over.

Публикувано: ср апр 16, 2008 7:31 am
от zxz_new
[quote=""Majestic-X""]That means I made a choice to make sure he got to the top, since it was logical as he was higher in WP.[/quote]
You read the rules, but see only the part that you want :)

Код: Избери всички

5. Flooding
Flooding means to send resources from another account without any resources sent back. Flooding doesn't include just a simple resource transport, but includes this few examples:
- Sending resource to a planet from which it can be picked up by many attacks;
- Attacks by a smaller fleet with the aim to create recycle, which is being picked up by a big account and isn't given back to the attacker;
- Other ways in which an account sends resource without nothing back (trade).
5.1 A transport of recycle is allowed only by the owner.
5.2 A one time help to another player is allowed if the resource is given back in one week and warning of the administrator.
5.3 A trade is allowed on rates close or the same like in the Trade Center and the resource must traded at the same time.
5.4 All other not mentioned cases of exchange or help with resource between players is treated as cheating and is punished.
5.4.1. On first doubt the account of the flooded and the flooder are punished by two days. During this time they must contact the administration and give an explanation. If this doesn't happen the accounts are punished by reducing their fleet by half without changing their resource points. If they give and explanation which discharges them the punishment is removed and their game resumes.
5.4.2. On second doubt the accounts of the flooded and the flooder are punished by ten days and reducing their fleet by half without changing their resource points. Violators again must give an explanation during the punishment mode.
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(съмнения за мулти и наливане, очаквам обяснение до 24 часа) That means that Corwin suspects you not only for multi but also for flooding, and in this universe it`s not only with resource points, but also with war points.

Публикувано: ср апр 16, 2008 10:25 am
от Majestica
Flooding means to send resources from another account without any resources sent back.

He Was Sending me resources I Was using it to build ships and sending it back as Ships.
How is this any different from the arranged battles that are constantly being done by players?
So if i had left my ships on my planet and he had attacked it would be different and within the rules.
This is absurd.
Why Dont ya just say no one is allowed to attack another.